Brian Walch spent twenty years interviewing candidates for promotions before one answer stopped him cold - a woman told him she simply found people doing the job she wanted and asked them how. It's the reason he coaches leaders differently today. Long before that, he was the software guy who envied engineers their collective culture, passed down from a father who moved to Alaska in 1966 and never left. Since founding Shiftfocus, he's built a national speaking career around ideas most leaders haven't caught up to yet, including one about AI that most people get backwards. Shelly Thomas sits down with the founder of Shiftfocus for a conversation about reinvention, AI, and the bets leaders should be making right now.

Music by the talented David Wolfe